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1.  One is in the Catholic Church ... even when the Catholic Church has no physical property or hierarchy (bishops and priests) ... if you ... 1) Believe the Catholic Sources of Dogma (Faith and Morals) ... 2) Followed by proper water Baptism. One, of course, must not be participating ... in any heretic cult ("vatican-2", "sspx", "sspv", "lutheran", "evangelical", etc.) ... which violates the Dogma listed on Section 13.2.2. See Sections 7 (Water Baptism) and 9 (Keeping the entire Faith).

2.  It is clearer than the noonday sun that a false (non-Catholic) "religion" was founded during the "vatican-2 council". Black and white proof of this is that there are well over 200 heresies against prior defined Catholic Dogma in the "vatican-2 council" documents (the founding documents of the vatican-2 heretic cult). The founding date of the vatican-2 sect was 8 December 1965 ... the closing date of the "council". Sections 12, 12-B, and 12-C ... list *400* heresies the of anti-Christ vatican-2 heresy.

3.  In summary, holding the Catholic Faith whole and inviolate means you believe the formal teachings of the Solemn Magisterium of the Catholic Church, the Catholic Sources of Dogma. The Ordinary Magisterium consists of other Catholic teaching from non-Dogmatic sources which must support and defend the Dogma -- otherwise it is simply rejected as heresy.

4.  If you are/were physically caught up in the heretical society known as the vatican-2 heretic cult (the buildings with Catholic signs) after 8 December 1965 ... you must enter the Catholic Church by ... taking the four steps on Section 2.1. This includes making a Formal Abjuration of heresy, provided on Section 40 (which I did in Nov 2009). Dogma and other citations that one must Abjure are listed on Sections 40.1 and 40.2.

5.  The four steps on Section 2.1 ... not only brings you into the Catholic Church ... they also teach you the Catholic Faith. Website section ... Introduction_Part-B provides an excellent top level summary ... in case the Catholic supernatural order truths are a brand new topic for you.

Vatican Council of 1870, Session 3, Chapter 3 On Faith, Paragraphs 8-9, Pope Pius IX -- Ex-Cathedra Dogma >
"Wherefore, by Divine and Catholic Faith all those things are to be believed which are ... proposed by the Church as matters to be believed as Divinely revealed (...) Since, then, without Faith it is impossible to please God and reach the fellowship of His sons and daughters, it follows that no one can ever achieve justification without it, neither can anyone attain eternal life unless he or she perseveres in it to the end."

6.  If you are still a physical member of the vatican-2 heretic cult ... the Ex-Cathedra Dogma on automatic excommunication for participation in a heretical society is operative regarding your immortal soul. This Dogma is listed in Section 13.2.2 of this site, anyone participating in any heresy must obey this Dogma and cease going to their anti-Christ group.

7.  Throughout its 2,000+ years, the Catholic Church has lost its buildings in different times and places to heretic cults in a localized manner, the loss of our formerly Catholic properties around the world after 8 December 1965 is no different (in kind) ... but different in magnitude since it was a global loss. The shear magnitude of this punishment gives you some idea as the the degree of the wrath of the Catholic God ... that is being visited upon the world in these times.

Catholic writing of Apocalypse 18:23 >
"And the light of the lamp shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the Bridegroom (Christ) and the Bride (the Catholic Church) shall be heard no more at all in thee."

Note 1: The voice of the Bridegroom and the Bride, speak the Catholic Dogma. The Dogma is heard "no more at all in thee" because our formerly Catholic buildings have been taken over by a non-Catholic cult ... which is shoving you (vatican-2-ists) into Hell forever. Have you ever ... even ONCE heard a Catholic Source of Dogma be read at your Sunday gathering ... in the last six DECADES ?  Most curious ... because the Dogma is the Faith according to all the citations on Section 3.3.

Note 2: And, of course ... "the lamp shall shine no more" ... the Sanctuary light is out, beyond all question -- since there is no such thing as Catholic Mass ... without Catholic priests ... in a non-Catholic cult. Non-Catholic ritual is rank idol worship ... in this case idol worship of the "vatican-2 god".

Catholic writing of Saint Matthew 24:15 >
"When therefore you shall see the abomination of desolation, which was spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place: he that readeth let him understand."

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1.  Section 87 of this site provides many Catholic Sources of Dogma on Jurisdiction and Governance. For a Bishop to function as a Catholic entity he must be granted Jursidiction from the Pope in an Apostolic Mandate letter. Since there hasn't been a Pope since 1914 the granting of Catholic Jurisdiction is completely impossible in these times.

Furthermore ... there are no Bishops to appoint anyway since all Bishops were automatically excommunicated from the Catholic Church on 8 December 1965 for signing their approval of the 200+ heresies in the sixteen "vatican-2 council" documents. Automatic excommunication citations (102 listed) are on Section 13.2.

2.  Two Sources of Dogma which verify Number 1 above:

Vatican Council of 1870, Session 4, Chapter 3: On the ... Primacy of the Roman Pontiff, Part 2 -- Ex-Cathedra Dogma >
"Wherefore we teach and declare that, by Divine ordinance, the Roman Church possesses a pre-eminence of ordinary power over every other church, and that this jurisdictional power of the Roman Pontiff is both episcopal and immediate. Both clergy and faithful, of whatever rite and dignity, both singly and collectively, are bound to submit to this power by the duty of hierarchical subordination and true obedience, and this not only in matters concerning faith and morals, but also in those which regard the discipline and government of the Church throughout the world."

Vatican Council of 1870, Session 4, Chapter 3: On the ... Primacy of the Roman Pontiff, Part 9 -- Ex-Cathedra Dogma >
"So, then, if anyone says that the Roman pontiff has merely an office of supervision and guidance, and not the full and supreme power of jurisdiction over the whole Church, and this not only in matters of faith and morals, but also in those which concern the discipline and government of the Church dispersed throughout the whole world; or that he has only the principal part, but not the absolute fullness, of this supreme power; or that this power of his is not ordinary and immediate both over all and each of the churches and over all and each of the pastors and faithful: let him be anathema."

3a.  There is no organization on the face of the earth that meets the two above listed Sources of Dogma (or the others listed on Section 87). The vatican-2 heretic cult cannot because they are not Catholic in Faith and are therefore automatically excommunicated from the Catholic Church. Section 12 of this website provides the proof that the vatican-2 cult is a heretical society, their founding documents (the documents of the "vatican-2 council") are packed with heresy against prior defined Catholic Dogma. If vatican-2 was Catholic they would be defending the Dogma not rejecting it. There's nothing complicated about any of this.

3b.  Many other groups of the world ... that use the word "Catholic" as part of their "false flag operation" to shove souls toward Hell ... do not meet the Jurisdiction and Governance Sources of Dogma because this Dogma requires a hierarchical subordination to the group that has a world-wide governance ... under the Roman Pontiff (not in place at this time).

3c.  Such groups are numerous in these times and include the "sspx", "sspv", "cmri", "Thuc line" groups, other "independents". These groups and everyone in them are automatically excommunicated for heresy against the Jurisdiction and Governance Dogma ... and are headed for Hell. The heresies of the "sspx" are on Section 105 ("sspv" is a breakaway from the "sspx"). Heresies of the "cmri" are on Section 131 ... any other "Thuc line" group has the disqualification reasons seen on Section 131.

4.  Please see Section 107 of this site which addresses a similiar situation in which Saint Athanasius had to fight against when the "arian" heretics who took over vast amounts of our formerly Catholic properties in the 4th Century. Saint Athanasius was forced from his Bishop residence in Alexandria five times. The Church teaches that those who died as a physical member of the "arian" heresy, by their very physical participation inside the "arian" buildings (which used to be Catholic) ... lost their souls.

Section 13.10 Sub-part A ... lists citations that one was not to go into the formerly Catholic buildings ... that were taken over by the "arian" heretics.

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1.  As we saw in Sub-part B above ... Catholic jurisdiction to run a Catholic Diocese or Order must come from the Pope ... by the Sources of Dogma listed on Section 87 of this site.

2.  On Section 20 of this site ... we list selected heresies of anti-Pope "benedict-15" from his "encyclicals". Heresy against the Catholic Dogma, whether held privately of publically, causes you to be automatically excommunicated from Christianity (the Catholic Church which has no buildings at this time). See Section 13.2 which lists *102* citations (Dogma and other) identifying automatic excommunication for heresy.

3.  Back when the Catholic Church had Dioceses and when it was in need of a new Bishop ... there are various ways that the different countries nominate people to fill the vacancy. They have their balloting mechanisms and rules as who can vote. In the United States and Ireland (for example) three candidates for the vacancy were identified and forwarded to Rome. Whatever the manner of his nomination, the prevailing candidate possesses no power until his nomination has been confirmed by the Holy See (Rome) in letters Apostolic (by authority of the Pope).

4.  After "benedict-15" was automatically excommunicationed for heresy in 1914 ... any action by him which appeared Catholic, such as ordination of priests, consecration of bishops, assigning of Catholic jurisdiction to a Bishop ... were invalid. The "priests" were not ordained, the "bishops" were not consecrated, and those who appeared to have been granted jurisdiction by "benedict-15" were not given jurisdiction. This continued with heretic frauds "pius-11" and "pius-12" through to 1958. Bishops offices around the world began to fall vacant ... in a gradual but steady fashion, for a full *50* years before the "vatican-2 council".

5.  The last Pope who could grant Catholic jurisdiction was Pope Pius X ..Pius X died in 1914.

6.  So in 1914 began ... the gradual disappearance of Catholic jurisdiction around the world.

7.  The Bishops who had received Jurisdiction prior to 1914 by Popes Pius X or Leo XIII ... retained that Jurisdiction until they died if they remained in the same assignment for which they were granted the jurisdiction (prior to 1914). The fact that "benedict-15" fell into heresy and was automatically excommunicated did not affect the jurisdiction that Bishops had been previously granted ... by Pius X or Leo XIII.

8.  The consecration of Bishops around the world did not cease in 1914 when "benedict-15" fell outside of the Catholic Church ... since other Bishops in the world retained their spiritual power to make Bishops. Those who were made Bishops after 1914 could not be granted jurisdiction ... to run a Catholic Diocese or Order ... since there was no Pope after 1914 to grant the Jurisdiction assignments.

9.  The youngest that one can be made a Bishop is 30 years old. If the last Bishop to be granted Catholic jurisdcition by Pius X was given jurisdiction in 1914 ... he would have been 81 years old in 1965 (the close year of the "vatican-2 council"). There was not a single Bishop who did not approve the fantastic heresy in the "vatican-2 council" documents, so there was not a single one who was not excommunicated on 8 December 1965.

10.  Lastly, if there was anyone living ... who had jurisdiction from Pope Pius X (or unlikely from Leo XIII) he was excommunicated for heresy on 8 December 1965. So that, the loss of all Catholic jurisdiction in the world was confirmed on 8 December 1965.

Saint Antoninus, died 1459 A.D., cited in Actes de Vatican I. V. Frond pub. >
"In the case in which the Pope would become a heretic, he would find himself, by that fact alone and without any other sentence, separated from the Church. A head separated from a body cannot, as long as it remains separated, be head of the same body from which it was cut off. A Pope who would be separated from the Church by heresy, therefore, would by that very fact itself cease to be head of the Church. He could not be a heretic and remain Pope, because, since he is outside of the Church, he cannot possess the keys of the Church."

Venerable Robert Bellarmine, De Romano Pontifice, II, 30 >
"This principle is most certain. The non-Christian cannot in any way be Pope, as Cajetan himself admits (ib. c. 26). The reason for this is that he cannot be head of what he is not a member; now he who is not a Christian is not a member of the Church, and a manifest heretic is not a Christian, as is clearly taught by St. Cyprian (lib. 4, epist. 2), St. Athanasius (Scr. 2 cont. Arian.), St. Augustine (lib. De great. Christ. Cap. 20), St. Jerome (contra Lucifer.) and others; therefore the manifest heretic cannot be Pope."

Note: A person’s heresy does not have to be manifest or notorius (widely known) for that soul to be automatically excommunicated from the Catholic Church, privately held heresy also causes your automatic excommunication.

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1.  From 1914 (the last year that a Bishop could have been granted Catholic Jurisdiction by a Pope (Pope Pius X)) ... to 1955 is 41 years.

2.  Currently there are about 3,100 fake "jurisdictions" that say they are Catholic (they aren't) ... there was probably fewer in 1965 ... lets say 2,900.

3.  Through shear attrition ... those not staying in the same assignment for which Pope Pius X had granted them Jurisdiction and by retirement and death ... lets say (and here's where the estimate comes in) five percent were still in place with Jurisdiction by the mid-1950's ... again having never moved from their 1914 assignment.

4.  That would leave 125 jurisdicional Bishops in the world (from 1914 or earlier) by the mid-1950's ... that had Catholic Jurisdiction, and so could still Ordain priests.

5.  But on 8 December 1965 there were no longer any Catholic Bishops ... because they were all automatically excommunicated for heresy for approving the heresy riddled sixteen "vatican-2 council" documents ... and for physical participation in a heretic cult (the vatican-2 cult). Those dressed like priests also ceased being Catholic priests on 8 December 1965 ... automatically excommunicated for physical participation in the vatican-2 heretic cult (Dogma listed on Section 13.2.2).

6.  So that ... 125 Bishops divided by 2,900 Jurisdictional Diocese ... makes 4.3 percent of Diocese that had Bishops in the mid-1950's.

7.  Although I would most certainly say ... that heretics "benedict-15", "pius-11", and "pius-12" ... would have moved Jurisdictional Bishops out of their 1914 assignment ... so that they would lose the 1914 (or earlier) Jurisdiction granted by Pope Pius X. One should not doubt for a moment that "benedict-15", "pius-11", and "pius-12" would have done this. Staggering heresies of these three anti-Popes are on Sections 20, 20.1, and 20.2 of this site.

8.  In the most likely scenario ... based on the level of evil of heretics ... the Jurisdictional Bishops granted that Jurisdiction by Pope Pius X (1914 or earlier) ... would have been quickly moved out of the assignments where they had Jurisdiction. So that by the mid-1940's (but probably much earlier) there were no Bishops on the face of the earth that could function as Catholic Jurisdictional entities.

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1.  As we saw in Sub-part C-2 ... there is the small possibility that there were Bishops who were granted Jurisdiction by Pope Pius X (prior to 20 August 1914) ... and who never moved from that Diocese for which they had Jurisdiction on or before 1914.

2.  This small number of Bishops would still have been able to grant Jurisdiction to their local priests for Mass ... via an Ordination that happened before 8 December 1965.  On 8 December 1965, the bishops in question were all automatically excommunicated for heresy for approving the "vatican-2 council" documents (that were filled with heresy).

3.  The priests in question ... if they were 30 years old when granted Jurisdiction for Mass in 1965 ... would be 90 years old in 2025.

4.  While this spiritual reality (Jurisdiction loss and granting) is taking place ... we also have the seven clear Scriptures regarding the "Abomination of desolation" ... foretold by the Prophet Daniel and Saint Mark listed in Section 13.7 of this site ... about the Catholic Church losing it's properties and a heretic abomination being run out of those same formerly Catholic properties, with the Catholic signs out front.

5.  Definition of Desolation 1 >  "A state of complete emptiness or destruction"
     Definition of Desolation 2 >  "Barren wasteland"
     Definition of Desolation 3 >  "Abandonment"

6.  So, is there a tiny remnant of 80 year old priests ... somewhere saying Jurisdictional Mass ?  Did this tiny remnant maintain Jurisdiction for Mass after ... 8 December 1965 ?

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7.  For one of these priests, of this tiny remnant, to maintain his Jurisdiction after 8 December 1965 ... he would have had to ...

a)  Have known that the "vatican-2 council" documents were filled with heresy.

b)  Have left the formerly Catholic property (where he had been saying Mass) ... and move immediately to say Mass only in private residences ... after 9 December 1965.

c)  Not participated in the vatican-2 heresy (the formerly Catholic properties) ... even a single time after 8 December 1965 ... which would have caused his automatic excommunication.  After 8 December 1965, there were no longer any Bishops who could re-grant him Jurisdiction.

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8.  The possibility of the scenario in Number 7 above ... is infinitesimal (approaching zero as a limit). The remnant priests who actually had Jurisdiction (via a Pope Pius X jurisdictional Bishop from 1914) ... would not have been given a warning to not particpate in the vatican-2 heresy starting on 9 December 1965.

9.  So the issue remains ... when Jesus Christ speaks of the "Abomination of desolation" being brought about ... is He speaking about the last 90+ year old Jurisdictional priest dying (in about these times, 2025) ?    Or is the Catholic Jesus Christ speaking of 8 December 1965 ?

We say the latter (8 Dec 1965)  ...  But you can resolve this quite simply, on your own  ...  by simply following these three steps ...

1.  Ask the person who you think is a Jurisdictional priest ... if he was Ordained before 8 December 1965 ... by a Bishop who received Jurisdiction from Pope Pius X on or before 1914 ... and who never moved from that same Diocese after 1914 ?

> If the answer to the above question is no ... you can stop here, he is not a Catholic priest ... you've been going to a stage show that looks like Catholic Mass.

> If the answer to the above question is yes ... continue to Question 2 below ...

2.  Ask him if his current geographic location (where it looks like he is saying Mass) ... is within the same Diocese boundaries for which he had received Jurisdiction on or before 8 December 1965.

> If the answer to the above question is no ... you've been going to a stage show that looks like Catholic Mass.

> If the answer to the above question is yes ... continue to Question 3 below ...

3.  Ask him ... if he participated in the vatican-2 heresy even a single time (after 8 December 1965) ... by saying Mass (or performing some other Sacrament) in the building where he had been saying Mass prior to 8 December 1965.

> If the answer to Question 3 is yes ... he is not a Catholic priest, he was automatically excommunicated for physical participation in the vatican-2 heresy. The Automatic Excommunication Dogma is listed on Section 13.2.2 ... you've been going to a stage show that looks like Catholic Mass.

> If the answer to Question 3 is no ... he is a Catholic priest and he is saying a valid Jurisdictional Catholic Mass on the private property where he is praying Mass ... as long as he stays in the same Diocese boundaries where he received the Jurisdiction prior to 8 December 1965.

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1.  On the very day that the "vatican-2 council" documents were promulgated to the world, 8 December 1965, the Vatican ceased to be a Catholic structure ... because the Catholic Church is incapable of teaching heresy ... and the "vatican-2 council documents" are packed with heresy against prior defined Catholic Dogma (see Section 12 of this website). The vatican-2 heretic cult, being a non-Catholic entity, does not have Catholic jurisdiction in any part of its organization.

2.  On 8 December 1965, "paul-6" ceased being an anti-Pope (he was already automatically excommunicated before the close of the "council") and he became the group leader of a heretic cult (the vatican-2 cult) ... just like the "leaders" of the presbyterians, lutherans, baptists, evangelicals, etc.

3.  All the successors to "paul-6" ... as the group leaders of the vatican-2 heretic cult, were/are outside of the Catholic Church ... so they cannot supply Catholic jurisdiction and governance to anyone or to any group.

4.  To illustrate ... the current leader of the vatican-2 heretic cult, Robert Prevost (a.k.a. "leo-14") cannot suppply Catholic jurisdiction to ... (for example) the group that calls itself the "Diocese of New York". The group that calls itself the "Diocese of New York" subscribes to the (now) non-Catholic Vatican and to the vatican-2 cult heresy, placing the fake "Diocese of New York" outside the realm of Catholic jurisdiction. On top of this is that Prevost, of course, cannot grant Catholic jurisdiction to anyone to be "bishop" of the fake "Diocese of New York".

5.  Anyone who is physically participating in a building of the fake "Diocese of New York" (for example) ... must take the four steps on Section 2.1 of this site, which places your soul into the Catholic Church ... to have any chance of making it to Heaven.
 
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Second Council of Constantinople, Sentence against the Three Chapters section, 553 A.D. -- Ex-Cathdra Dogma >
"The heretic, even though he has not been condemned formally by any individual, in reality brings anathema on himself, having cut himself off from the way of truth by his heresy."

Council of Florence, Session 11, 4 February 1442 -- Ex-Cathdra Dogma >
"The Holy Roman Church ... condemns, reproves, anathematizes and declares to be outside the body of Christ, which is the Church, whoever holds opposing or contrary views."

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God has complete and perfect knowledge (past, present, and future), He knew before the creation of the world that there would be times and places where Sacramental Confession would not be available.

Since God is infinitely just He would not say that you must have Sacramental Confession to get to Heaven ... while at the same time knowing that there will be times and places when confession would not be available. See Section 10.2 of this site for more detail.

The Catholic God does not command impossibilities, so ... it was taught three time in Sources of Dogma of how to confess sins and return to a state of grace when no priests are available.

Please see ... infallible Council of Trent Dogma from Sessions 6 and 14 after next dashed line.

C a u t i o n : There is no forgiveness of sins outside the Catholic Church (which has no buildings in these times) ... so one must become Catholic first by the four steps on Section 2.1. ... because there is no such thing as a non-Catholic "god".

Pope Boniface VIII, Unam Sanctam, 18 Nov 1302 -- Ex-Cathedra Dogma >
"We firmly believe and simply confess this Church outside of which there is no salvation nor remission of sin."

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Council of Trent, Session 14, Chapter 4, On Contrition, 1551 A.D. -- Ex-Cathedra Dogma >
"It sometimes happens that this contrition is perfect through charity, and reconciles man with God before this sacrament be actually received, the said reconciliation, nevertheless, is not to be ascribed to that contrition, independently of the desire of the sacrament which is included therein."

Note: Man is reconciled with God (without Sacramental Confession) by four operations  >

1. Simply have the disposition of soul that ... you would go to a priest if one was available.
2. Have what is called ... perfect contrition, sorrow for sins because they offend God. Imperfect contrition is sorrow over the loss of Heaven and the pains of Hell.
3. Have a firm purpose of amendment to leave your sins ... to not sin again.
4. Confess your sins to God.

Note: Again ... man is reconciled with God (without Sacramental Confession) by four operations  >

1. Simply have the disposition of soul that ... you would go to a priest if one was available.
2. Have what is called ... perfect contrition, sorrow for sins because they offend God. Imperfect contrition is sorrow over the loss of Heaven and the pains of Hell.
3. Have a firm purpose of amendment to leave your sins ... to not sin again.
4. Confess your sins to God.

Note: Again ... man is reconciled with God (without Sacramental Confession) by four operations  >

1. Simply have the disposition of soul that ... you would go to a priest if one was available.
2. Have what is called ... perfect contrition, sorrow for sins because they offend God. Imperfect contrition is sorrow over the loss of Heaven and the pains of Hell.
3. Have a firm purpose of amendment to leave your sins ... to not sin again.
4. Confess your sins to God.

1. Have the dispostion that you would confess to a priest is one was available.

2. Have perfect contrition, sorrow for sins because they offend God.  Imperfect contrition is sorrow over the loss of Heaven and the pains of Hell.

3. Have a firm purpose of amendment to leave your sins ... to not sin again.

4. Confess your sins to the Catholic God.  (Note: Whoever is "confessing" to a non-Catholic "god" is sin against the First Commandment).

Three important points ...

Point 1: By the above Dogma, God is stating here ... to not sinfully ... run off to non-Catholic / non-jurisdictional entities ("vatican-2", "sspx", "sspv", "cmri", etc.) for "confession" which will not obtain for you absolution of your sins ... because they have no priests. Doing this also causes your automatic excommunication for participation in a non-Catholic cult ... which is violation of the Dogma on Section 13.2.2.

Point 2: The three above citations from the Council of Trent do not and can not imply that there is such a thing as "baptism of desire" (there isn't). See Section 1.1 for twenty Sources of Dogma ... which specifically rule out the heresies of "baptism of desire" and "baptism of blood". Section 7.6 has seven instances where "baptism of desire" and other Baptism heresies are condemned by Sources of Dogma.

Truth of the super-natural order:
All grace starts with God, goes to the hands of the Blessed Virgin, and then into the world. God (Grace Himself) came into the world
by the Blessed Virgin, God never changes, all grace follows the same path to this day and until the end of the world.

 
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